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Saturday, August 12, 2006

Mumbai Meeting: Structure

Hi All,

The following has been planned as the structure of the meeting:

Internal Group members Meeting(finding volunteers to divide the work content in forming and running an NGO for representing our concerns) 2 to 3PM

Seminar(3 to 5 PM)
  1. Introduction of the Guests, the Issues involved in 498a, Objectives and Structure of the meeting - Mr.P.R.Gokul(Introduces each speaker individually too before their speeches, adding remarks about what has already been said and what needs to be still addressed - in an interactive way so that audience is involved early in the session- before the star segment of Q&A(Question and Answer session)) - 5 Mins
  2. First Guest speaker: Speaks about his experiences in dealing with 498a and DP(Dowry Prohibition) law misuse cases, precautions, defense/offence steps victims could take, whats the alternative for 498a or how it should be amended to prevent misuse- Mr.S.S.Palnitkar(Ex-Judge, Family and District court)- 10 mins
  3. First member speaker: Compliments/clarifies what the first speaker has said, mentions glaring instances where misuse is obvious in his own case(for the Media to feed on), some points on 498a(prevention, defense, offence) and what we could be aiming to do as a group - Mr.M.R.Gupta - 5 mins
  4. Second Guest speaker: Speaks about her experiences in dealing with cases of 498a and DP law misuse, precautions, defense/offence steps victims could take, whats the alternative for 498a or how it should be amended to prevent misuse- Mrs.Anamika V.Vichare-Sarang(Advocate High Court and Family court, Mumbai, Editor: Purushmukti, Legal Advisor to PHSS(Purush Hakka Saurakshan Samittee) - 10 mins
  5. Second member speaker: Compliments/clarifies what the second speaker has said, mentions glaring instances where misuse is obvious in his own case(for the Media to feed on), some points on 498a(prevention, defense, offence) and what we could be aiming to do as a group - Mr.Jaspal Singh - 5 mins
  6. Third Guest speaker: In the same lines as other guest speaker, adding his own observations during his career- Ex-DGP(to be confirmed by tomorrow evening)- 10 mins
  7. Third member speaker: Compliments/clarifies what the third speaker has said, mentions salient points of some 498a cases he has counseled as a helpline volunteer, and to bring out the "Anatomy of a Typical 498a case"(the typical psychology of the misusing wives& relatives(single daughter, not used to caring and sharing, pampered, tantrums, etc.), their motives(get-rich-fast, plain sadism, pressure tactics to establish upper hand in future family life!), family situation(negative influence of a lot of divorcees/sinister minds in family/friends circle, money-minded, rogue-politician(or such occupations!) type family background, old-wives techniques imparted by girl's mother to get husband under 'control') etc. which drives a girl to falsely implicate her husband & some points on 498a(this section to be split between question answer sessions as appropriate to maintain a coherent flow)- Mr.Jinesh Zaveri - 5 mins initially and continued later as the situation demands, complimenting the flow of the interactive session.
  8. Q&A , Interactive session - 1 hour
  9. Some expert members may speak in between the Q&A Session capturing the missed-out points until then, new directions to be considered etc.- a few minutes to compliment the discussions.
5 to 6 P.M is kept for interactions(including Q & A) between members, the guests may choose to leave or not, as per their convenience.

Any suggestions may be sent to drmura @ hotmail.com , to make the most out of this event.

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Brief Details of the Meeting..........

To be held at the Press Club of India, Near C.S.T(VT) Station, Fort, Mumbai: 13th Sunday August.

Legal awareness seminar(coping with Misuse of Family laws):IPC 498a.

Conducted by Save Indian Family foundation from 3 P.M to 6 P.M. Laws like IPC 498a are misused and the Husband and his family get arrested and entangled in long-drawn legal proceedings. Arrests could happen even without any witness, evidence or police investigation, on the basis of just a false complaint by wife. Know how to take precautions and cope with these situations. Call 9224335577, 9820241589.
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Do note that we have to share the expenses of the event, for this we have decided on a registration fee of Rs.100 per person. If the expenses overshoots the collection, you are free to contribute more, but no compulsion :).

Do confirm your participation, email to drmura @ hotmail.com , lets make this a big success and help ourselves. See http://at498a.blogspot.com/2006/08/promote-mumbai-meetingdetails-mumbai.html for more details on the meeting.


Warm Regards

P.R.Gokul
http://gokul.go.to , http://cruiserdeep.blogspot.com/
Tele/Fax : +91 22 25614188(Bombay, Res), +91 9821414336
Join SIF Mumbai Chapter: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sif-mumbai/join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sif-kerala
http://mynation.net, http://www.498a.org, http://forgottenwomen.org
http://www.saveindianfamily.org, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saveindianfamily
24-hour All India Helpline Number:+91-9243473794
Volunteer Helpline Numbers(limited contact hours,send SMS if unavailable)
Delhi : 9871734980, 9810611534, 9911119113
Chandigarh: 9888562582, Bangalore : 80-55334135
Mumbai : 9224335577, Jaipur : 9352562456, Calcutta: 033 25217318/25347398
emails: help@498a.org , info@mynation.net , mail@saveindianfamily.com, help@asha-kiran.com
See ongoing awareness campaigns: http://at498a.blogspot.com/, to post to this blog send email to cruiserdeep.498a@blogger.com



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10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How an NRI in fear of arrest due to misuse of 498A going to attend any meeting in India in first place? Will be like placing the head in the lion's mouth!!! So have such meetings in UK and USA also where people feel many victims are or give some sort of guarantee for NRI's return after the meeting to attend to his duties back in UK and USA. This matter is as bad as that and I am sorry to say this in 2006. With all due respect for India but NRI's life is also valuable. Thanx. UK guy.

Anonymous said...

498A Section should not be a nightmare. The reason it is so is because as we read here, the police arrest the husband and the family upon the lady's first complain and then the case starts. The lady in question can complain to the police and then the police have to tell her to hire a lawyer to fight the case. The idea seems that the lady likes to harrase the husband and his family and this can be done so easily as she does not have to lift a stick or hire a gunda as the police do that job for her and so the police are guilty here and they should firstly be taken to the court and then the husband. Come on police we have to see you as god figure. Please dont lose your chance to get moksha doing your duty. As clearly it is the police harrasing and not the husband in many cases. So is there a 498A/Police to go legally against the police? These cases will almost get very small in number if this police illegal decision is put to check. Come on police we have to see you as god figure. People are clearly not scared of a letter from the lady's lawyer as they have the time and the money to fight back with the proof we see here. But how they do this and specially from abroad as they have the fear of being arrested in the first place? If one tries to be a Gandhi in 2006 India, he/she gets a bullet bit too quick and seems from the law itself. Wah!!! UK Guy

Anonymous said...

NRI lost interest and respect for the place when recently got into this trap. Previously was visiting India regularly and also contrubuted at places of need. Totally innocent but now even scared to place information here with name and address.....simply because you never know what can happen. My life is valued by me and dont want it ruined by some thugs when such law exists in India. Can we please have more Gandhis from the politicians of India? Gandhi opened this employment.....that is Official Indian Politics. So let us give something in return to HIM please. UK Guy.

Anonymous said...

Indians

SOME VERY IMPRESSIVE FACTS ABOUT INDIANS IN USA !!!

There are 3.22 Million Indians in America

38% of Doctors in America are Indians.

12% of Scientists in America are Indians.

36% of NASA employees are Indians.

34% of MICROSOFT employees are Indians

28% of IBM employees are Indians

17% of INTEL employees are Indians

13% of XEROX employees are Indians

23% of Indian Community in America is having Green-Card'

Above information from an email

So why they went to USA in the first place?
Why so many more still want to go to USA and UK in 2006?
WAKE UP INDIA.

Anonymous said...

Why they left India?..... Because many of them might be children of the leaders and the rich in India and prefer to live in the west.

Anonymous said...

Reading all this about the misuse of law and in particular misuse of 498A, I have a suggestion for NRI. Go to India for a holiday. Like now, don’t get involved with politics and business there in India. By now after many years abroad, you have got this title of being a NRI. Most likely you are born abroad. So be a NRI. They used to say when you marry a lady, the 2 families also get married. The problems get sorted out by the 2 families. But remember now…..REMEMBER…..NRI guy not only marries an Indian lady from India but also marries the India police, who are the first ones to arrest you before you are found guilty. Why we blame the law? The law is there. The people who put the law in place are the ones to take the responsibility. So why marry a lady from India in the first place? There are plenty of Indian ladies abroad also where you now live. The Indian lady from India will find it difficult to adjust to the life abroad…..in particular UK and then will blame you and they have the additional police force in India who they can rely on to lock you up next time you are in India or can call you to India by arresting your family member in India, if you have any there. Why marry one and try to see if she adjusts to the life in UK. Why take this risk as she has the Indian police on her side to even ruin your future visits to India. Be safe where you belong and serve that country. You are a NRI and be a NRI. Yes, visit India, see the place, enjoy the Darshans at religious places, enjoy the food and get out after that, back to where you belong. Sorry India this is happening now after personal experience. I am giving my points only about this one problem in India. It is up to others and India herself to address other issues. UK guy.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
UK GUY HAS READ THIS ARTICLE ON INTERNET.....

(KNOWS OF ANOTHER CASE WHERE ANOTHER LADY FROM INDIA HAD COMPLAINED TO THE POLICE ABOUT SIMILAR INCIDENT AND THEN THE POLICE WERE AFTER HER BODY.....NOW THAT LADY IS IN UK). SO GRADUALLY INDIA WILL HAVE MANY DISTURBED LADIES AND SINGLE PARENT CHILDREN. BIG PRICE TO PAY).

Dear Friends,

I am please to blog this on behalf of this 17 Yr Old College going Girl, She Writes

I being a 21st Century Girl doesn’t believe that India is a male dominated country because now-a-days abla’s are sabla’s I mean to say that today’s generation women always want to get something which is new branded and which also has a status symbol that too sitting at home without earning anything. This whole pressure comes on the poor husband who has to listen to his parents, to his in-law, to his boss to his children’s demand too. Irrespective of his demand he has to fulfill his family demand first.

If demand is not fulfilled by him then he has to listen to his wife’s taunts, his children’s frustration to face other problems too. Husbands also have only one person to whom they can talk i.e. to their wife, But dominating nature of wives make them more angry and violent due to which male remove their frustration in form of anger and violence. After that, the spouse or man’s better half do the propaganda of their so called plight without thinking about their husband’s mental status. Thus, adding fuel to fire. They do this with their sure shot and powerful weapon i.e. Tears. Some wives are so great that they directly go to the cops without thinking once about the consequences on their husbands and his family members, Due to which males like (Ram) have to suffer a lot.

This thought of mine can be explained with my personally witnessed experience some days back in my friend’s case. She was genuinely eve teased by some notorious guys in her neighborhood. Her father came to know about this incidence and he called the cops. The guys were taken to question by the police. But to my surprise the police did not even question us at all!!! They took us on face value and the guys were bashed royally by police. And we were not even questioned at all. I could sense the loop hole that I hear many elder married guys stuck in divorce who talks about it, like the one in my neighborhood. Before which I had no whiff about the whole thing.

I asked the police if we could leave and he understood my gesture on face. And he said to us that “You are like our daughters and we have now to be extra cautious about our image too, especially after the rape cases”

And that is where after the NC was lodged I could make out that men are really really vulnerable and women is actually dominating men using men (police) and law to the maximum of their advantage.

No doubt my friends’ grievance was genuine but the statement of the police and the treatment given to the accused at the face value of the whole matter made my conscience prick me to the extent of telling me that thank god I do not have a brother else he could have been victimized and would have been equally vulnerable to this attitude of the police.

“That keeps me pondering on the question that “Is India Really a Male Dominated Country???”


Sneha Kala.
XII Commerce, C-11.
Thakur College

5:51 PM

Anonymous said...

They used to say when you marry a lady, the 2 families also get married. The problems get sorted out by the 2 families. But remember now…..REMEMBER…..NRI guy and and others dont only marry an Indian lady from India but also marries the Indian police, who are the first ones to arrest you before you are found guilty. Why we blame the law? The law is there. The people who put the law in place are the ones to take the responsibility. So why marry an lady from India in the first place

Anonymous said...

Arre...yahin to dhokha kha gaya India..

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